NPR is now allmost non stop womens voices

We went from all male all white to nearly all women nearly all white.

Women have better voices.

NPR is unlistenable. I'd rather watch Chuck Todd and Chris Matthews than listen to NPR.

And all the news is about oprressed US Muslims and Latino Illegals.

Male or female, I don't want to listen to their vocal fry anymore.

Yes, MAJOR vocal fry.

In fact, I call it gravel voice.

(cos I is special)

It’s all vocal fry, upspeak and “Soooo...”

The dulcet tones of Teri Gross talking about the plight of homeless islamic trans sex workers.

OMG. They were interviewing some nurse. It was the most intense version of vocal fry I've ever heard. It does seem to manifest especially hardcore when speaking of tragedy, stress, life's more challenging challenges.

Here it is - I mean she is talking about bone marrow replacement, so vocal fry IS appropriate.

move the timeline along to 1:30

NPR= No Penised Radiocasts

Women tend to make better broadcasters because they've basically experienced more, have more empathy, and take a wider view of a situation.

Males are usually more rigid and insistent.

I'm a liberal democrat, but I can't listen to NPR. I don't care whose voices are on it

I can't watch MSNBC either. I know how shitty things are. I need to watch/listen to or about it over and over. That kind of shit is for the folks who watch fox news. Those fucktards watch/listen all day and get worked up. I don't have time for that kind of shit. I'm out living my life and trying to make a difference

R4 Latino illegals? Did you really type that? Are you a deplorable idiot from Flyoverstan? An entire ethnicity cannot be illegal. Try the more honest "asylum seekers" and spare me your race baiting bullshit. What a moron.

[quote]Latino illegals? Did you really type that? Are you a deplorable idiot from Flyoverstan? An entire ethnicity cannot be illegal.

That's NOT what he said.

^^^ R17 is reading not your forte? What part of "All the news is about oprresed (sic) US Muslims and Latino Illegals" don't you get? People aren't illegal. They're people. Remember we tried the dehumanization thing back in the 30s & 40s and it didn't turn out so well.

If you don't like hearing women's voices, I'm sure you'd be more at home listening to Rush Limbo and Sean Scammity or the hundreds of douche bros and cranky old men on other radio stations. OP an his ilk are the type of eldergays who refer to women as "fish."

R19 — How many men were discriminated against illegally to achieve to the nearly all woman broadcast and reporting workforce? Think about that you asshole?

So you don't care for Schweddy Balls?

R19 Pay no attention to the misogyny of R20. You hit it spot on. Rude bitches in the house.

[R19] Poor opressed white male and founding member of The He-Man Woman Haters Club; WeHo Chapter.

Non diverse mono gender work forces are products of unlawful and unfair discrimination. Fact.

R24 Pay attention, gurl! Ain't nobody got time to decipher your references.

[quote] How many men were discriminated against illegally to achieve to the nearly all woman broadcast and reporting workforce?

I’m guessing none.

R27 - none? How does the broadcast team become not just majority but overwhelmingly made up of women? No male applicants?

It's not "unlawful" to hire women instead of men.

I hadn’t noticed that, but there are a few women who have terrible vocal fry and THE ACCENTS.

There’s Zoey Chase and her obNOXious Chicago accent. It’s like a parody.

And Ayesha Rascoe, with her aggressive Ebonics (“hundrit” instead of “hundred”) inflection.

Just read the damn news. I don’t need your personality.

R31 There have been numerous threads throughout the years on NPR's vocal fry and crude accents. Do you think you're into something? Are you new here or just dumb?

Hello. This is Marion Mar-Shall(emphasis added on the upspeak), with your news update from the BBC.

No not unlawful to hire women. It is unlawful to hire women exclusively.

It's not about women; it's about the women on NPR with the terrible speaking voices. They are all younger women with terrible vocal fry, which makes them sound truly stupid. I no longer listen, except to the weekend quiz shows.

I just can't stand when they have some nerd on who chuckles the whole time he's explaining something, all self-satsified, especially if it's a long interview like Terry Gross or something. It goes without saying that these are the same ones who begin their statements with "So..."

The recent Hidden Brain podcast about how people view agricultural animals versus pets had one such guy. I'm not explaining it well but you'd know it if you heard it. These guys who fake laugh the whole time they're relaying their observations, as if they are just soooo amusing if only you're smart enough to get it.

[quote]r28 How does the broadcast team become not just majority but overwhelmingly made up of women? No male applicants?

Isn't NPR a non-profit? Men usually seek better paying jobs.

Social conditioning dictates that men's voices are authoritative, women's voices are soothing. Deviation is off-putting.

I do think vocal fry is ugly and off putting. I’ll turn the radio off if I hear it. I also believe it’s an affectation which makes it even worse—I have noticed that women from the same neighborhood and school don’t all have it, which means that some choose to speak that way intentionally. Anyone who does that shouldn’t be speaking in public, they should stick to shopping and being basic.

Serrana, donde dormistes?

[quote] Anyone who does that shouldn’t be speaking in public, they should stick to shopping and being basic.

The NPR people need to tell them to cut it out.

They don't HAVE TO do it. It's not a "regional accent" or a speech impediment.

Even many of thew women they interview have terrible fry. It's pretty much uncontrolled amongst millennial women.

[quote][R11] is painful

It's insane, isn't it? Whenever she talks about the "heavier" stuff is when the fry really kicks in.

I don't know how people can listen to NPR. I had to hear a lot of it for a few days recently and everyone was so goddamn earnest and empathetic I wanted to spit. (And I do think it's a result of having more women in the newsroom.)

Millennial women. They refer to “black and brown folks” on there too. That sounds so condescending.

Do they still play cassette recordings of oppressed foreigners yelling while running through the streets?

I've been a lifelong NPR listener but just can't do it anymore. I can't take the overly-casual, first-person referential stories now. Nothing is reported. It's related to us like the person reporting is my best friend. "Hi, Ari! What can you tell us about this terrible crisis in Nicaragua?" I simply stopped listening one day and am happier listening to podcasts and music.

I have this theory that vocal fry is something girls develop to drive their mother's crazy. Trouble is, they grow up and drive everybody else crazy, too.

R1 has never heard vocal fry in a female millennial. Let the ear bleeding begin!

[R49] I think they think it’s cute. Men don’t do it. It’s usually, though not always, young white girls. If it were up to me, I would never hire anyone that sounded like that. It’s unprofessional. You don’t want to work someplace that sounds like you’re at sunglass hut.

A couple weeks ago, the local NPR affiliate had a special guest on, a guy who used to be the chief statistician for the INS (now ICE). The station kept teasing that the largest source of illegal immigrants wasn't people crossing the (southern) border; it's people flying in. It was clear that they were pushing this story in order to claim that the southern border should not be of concern. My NPR affiliate often acts as a propaganda arm of the Mexican consulate.

The guest, I forget his name, was very droll and full of facts and figures. He's a professor somewhere now. But he discussed the larger number of immigration violators who fly in rather than walk in. A couple times he tried to make clarifying comments, but got interrupted by the host. He said, "But this isn't an effective argument against monitoring the southern border, because the problem is the same."

The host ignored these comments. Then the statistician finally said, "The largest source of fly-in visa violators is Mexico, just as it is the largest number by land." And he continued, not about to let this moment get by: "Lower-skilled and trades working American citizens have been enormously financially injured by the immigration crisis of the past 25 years." "It would be very easy for the states and/or the federal government to enforce current, existing laws requiring citizenship verification of job applicants."

And the interview was essentially over at that point lol.

And 3/4 of NPR women mispronounce "the". They say "thuh" when it comes before a vowel, like "thuh opinion" or "thuh iPhone". Actually it’s more prevalent among young women, not older ones, and a few young men also, so I guess it’s generational. Is this vocal fry? Where did it come from?

[quote] Isn't NPR a non-profit? Men usually seek better paying jobs.

Non-profit can pay big as well.

R48, I could have written your post. I don't miss the new NPR, but God, I do miss the old NPR.

Podcasts are full of men who believe themselves to be the hilarious geniuses I attempted to describe up thread.

I'll probably get F&Fed and it's not my intention to provoke anyone whatsoever but the very nature of this thread is unhelpful to the advancement of gay rights. It stinks of misogyny and we need women as allies and they deserve our respect. Who gives a flying fuck about their accents or speech affectations if the content of their pieces advances the generally progressive message of NPR?

Those women are allies of such "progressive" issues such as "trans" and Muslim rights. Gays? That's like sooooooooooooo over.

[quote]this thread is unhelpful to the advancement of gay rights. It stinks of misogyny

You need to lighten up, Mary. See the funny side of things. You're too intense.

R58 I know. Sorry for not wanting to be a sexist. My bad. I'll step out and let you guys enjoy the "funny" side of sexist oppression. Enjoy your thread.

r56/r59 is fun at parties.

R59 is a vegan lesbian with serious vocal fry.

A thread about vocal fry is not sexist. Vocal fry is an aesthetic choice and can be criticized like any other aesthetic choice.

This is true, R62. Men can be every bit as much tacky bitches as some vocal fry millennitwat.

A lot of the men on npr sound like gawky 14 year olds with sparse mustaches and facial tics who start tugging on their ding dongs when they talk about Star Wars.

Haha [R64] Joshua Johnson. Perfect name, too.

I still listen in the hopes of hearing Ofeibea Quist-Arcton, reporting from Dakaarrrrrrrrrrhhhh.

All Upreading? All the time?

Finally, a safe radio station I can play at the women-only health club where I work.

R66 ! Thank you for mentioning the one thing I truly miss since I stopped listening to NPR. AND for putting her name in print. Always wondered how it was spelled :) Now THAT'S a voice!

[quote]r56 I'll probably get F&Fed and it's not my intention to provoke anyone whatsoever but the very nature of this thread is unhelpful to the advancement of gay rights. It stinks of misogyny and we need women as allies and they deserve our respect. Who gives a flying fuck about their accents or speech affectations if the content of their pieces advances the generally progressive message of NPR?

Totally agree.

But I don't think most gay men despise women like OP does. The tone of this person's criticism of women is sad - - it's just a very juevenile, "I Want to Live in a World of ALL BOYS!!!!" voice. It makes me wonder how they possibly get by in the world, detesting half its population. And this person is usually all over the board, trying to drum up hate for women. It's sad, and puzzling. WHAT happened to MAKE them like this??

They're going to bust a blood vessel some day.

We need NPR but we also need to make fun of it. I absolutely loathe Joshua Johnson and I'm not sure why..I liked Dianne Rehm so much better and he's always on when I am driving. Always. I feel like NPR is playing it too safe. Just be liberal and own it.

I don't necessarily listen to NPR because of specific announcers or reporters ... it's more that they interview interesting personalities, artists, etc.

Plus, they have a mellow vibe that's soothing while I'm driving.

OP = Racist troll pretending to be a bean counter.

Ignore it. This type is learning to be more "specific" in their targeting.

Kai "Wait for it" Ryssdal is not exactly pleasant to listen to.

[quote]Women have better voices.

Why is it that so many posts elevating the supposed qualities of women are so completely unrelated to reality? Some women may have pleasant voices, but women reach annoying pitches far more often than men, and everyone knows that. Women are the only ones who, when competing for public office, risk losing votes because of their voice. Just google, "[female politician name] + shrew". The usual excuse is sexism. But how many times have I had to protect my ears when I heard a woman in a state of heightened emotionality (or trying to affect one) because her voice was piercing my eyes and making by eardrum shake? I'm yet to have that kind of reaction to a man's voice. Can eardrums even be sexist?

Far from being the result of a social, sexist construct, this distinction is completely natural. In the vertebrate world, the male is always the most beautiful of species - the one with the prettiest plumage or fur, the most beautiful song. It makes sense for men to have the most pleasant voices between the two sexes (or [italic]au moins[/italic] the least annoying one), just as we have the most beautiful faces when women go without makeup.

This isn't NPR, but how can anyone listen to these voices. #2 was okay, but the others............

I've been called a misogynist and everything but a child of God for saying I find most female voices (but not all) shrill, high-pitched and eardrum piercing to say nothing of that heinous upspeak that even many female tv commentators and talking heads have! I can't STAND IT!

If you plan on being on tv, or doing a lot of public speaking, avail yourself of a speech therapist to maximize your ability to communicate effectively!

Amen. But then, you would be dismissed as sexist.

R74, I actually find Kai Rysdall's voice very pleasant and soothing. It's always disappointing to me whenever someone else is filling in for him!

I love this thread. Another recent topic asked if you've ever been flamed on DL and what did they call you. My reply: SJW, black lesbian, woke millennial, frau, chick with vocal fry, etc. How funny. I'm a middle aged east coast townie blue collar guy. DLers love ad hominem attacks. The respondents to the current topic have once again shown their true tired colors.

Did anyone else hear Nora Raum do "Today's Headlines" on July 4? She was slurring and garbling every word. It must be heard to be believed.

I have searched for the broadcast to link it here, but I can't find it.

NPR is both sides do it BS, which is a default pro-right wing position. Both the men and women on it engage in this bias. To hell with it.

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